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Another Altitude question

Posted by Mizunogirl on 11/20/2007

Hi everyone. I am hoping to get some solid advice here, I've read a lot of the scientific studies regarding altitude training, but...really I want to know what it all boils down to for me...

I'm coming off a year of injury after injury and finally have been able to start running again consistently, albeit with a lot lower mileage than before...(but no injury!).  To celebrate this, a few friends and I are planning to run the Canyonlands Half Marathon in Moab Utah in March.  Moab is at about 4,000 feet.

I am training now at 28 feet above sea level.  In January I am moving to Los Alamos NM for 3 months for work and to continue training.  I feel like by the time I have been in the altitude for 2 months the race will be no different than training because I will have been there for a while.  But, I am concerned that the altitude will throw off my training....and I am not sure what to do.  Ahead of time i have been taking iron supplements and folic acid in hopes of having some more RBCs...

I've heard that I need to give 3-4 days for each 1000 feet of altitude.  So techinically it's about 2 weeka to adjust.  During those 2 weeks I am supposed to be doing a 10 miler and an 11 miler.  My question is this: should I adjust my plan to have cutback weeks??  Or should I just do the longer runs and suck it up and go super slow....

also what should I realistically expect to happen right after I move???  Thanks I'm particularly worried because I sufferred so many injuries and set backs last year, that I really really want to be able to race....(even if I will be placing say number 3500 out of 4000...I don't care. I just want to race.)

Thank you for any help!!!!

6 comments

Jerry Nairn says:

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The difference between sea level and 4000 feet is not really that bad. I think you could go there and race right now. You'd feel it, but it would not make a big difference.
I live at about 300 feet elevation and routinely go into the nearby mountains and race at altitudes from 4000 to 8000 feet.
Los Alamos, at over 7000 feet, will take some adjustment. But altitude is one of those things for which everyone is different.
I think you should leave your training plan the same for now, then see how you feel. There may just be a few hard days that you have to cut yourself some slack because you're adjusting. Or you may have to rewrite the whole plan.
I don't think you can know what will be necessary based on any formula.
But I could be wrong on that.

Mizunogirl says:

Oh gee, I didn't realize how high Los Alamos was... I'm contracted in a town 15 miles awa thats at 5500 feet....well I'll be making some RBCS for sure. I could actually try something like the live high train low! I think you are right that most formulas sort of only tell you half the story...the other half is how you do once you get there...

baldwyn says:

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A day per 1000 feet seems excessive. Western States 100 literature suggests a 3 day period to acclimate to altitude. Have you had issues at altitude before? Don't psych yourself out! I wouldn't worry about it, just go run, and then IF you feel effects, stop, or slow down.

I have to say I've never done a race at higher altitude, and it's a bit of a concern for me too, as I'm targetting WS100 2009. I'll be in Reno over Christmas and trying to get some long runs in then to see. I'm hoping my other hobby of jumping out of airplanes is enough conditioning for my body :) If you're going to be living at altitude take full advantage of it. You know they sell altitude chambers for mega bucks to athletes just to simulate it! Not just because they might race at altitude, but probably because your body will become more efficient at using the oxygen available. So take advantage of your 3 months!

Mizunogirl says:

I've had problems in the past with getting pretty sick at altitude, and last year I sucked a ton of wind when I went from say 300 feet to 2200 feet, so I expectthis to be shall we say....uh...dramatic. BUt it is only for a week  or so.....

I'm pretty excited about the opportunity to live in Los Alamos, especially because a short drive brings about a lower altitude to train in... Yes,we joke that because I'llprobably contract out to Maine or Washington in the spring, it will  be like I had epo injections,for the first few weeksI run...

WS, whoa....you want someone to crew for you?  thats about all I'd be up for....too much crazy talk.  I have toyed with the idea of the Umpstead 100,but I need to get back on track injury free for more than three months!

 

baldwyn says:

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Crazy talk is all that it is right now! But if I keep talking about it, eventually people will hold me to it :) I've only done two marathons to date after all. But yeah, I was counting on doing it crewless for the lack of applicants so if you're game :)

Hey, good luck with move, take it easy the first week, and really hope you can get back on track to being injury free.

Mizunogirl says:

Oh I'm game depending....Do I get to Pace you at crazy wierd hours of the night?  Or maybe I should rephrase that to do I have to...

:)

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